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president four years. you said you would cut the deficit in half. we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> five weeks before the election, he says his big bold idea is, never mind. >> if there is any good news for the president after the debate is that the unemployment rate dropped below 8% from 8.1%, to 7.8%, the lowest since he took office. jonathan martin was on the ground for the debate in denver. you say romney took the debate stage with the top republican verging on panic. did this turnaround for them? >> they are backing away from the edge. there is no question that this was a make or break moment for governor romney. if he had not shown up like he did in denver, you would have seen a really ugly scene here. a lot of folks in his party would have backed away from him. this puts him back in the game, it restores confidence among other people running for the house and senate this year who are now happy to be seen with him. it gives them a real boost when they desperately need it. he still has problems and a lot of swing states. this puts them back in the game, it turns around the

losses, bigger unemployment and bigger deficits and more wars than president obama, was, by the failed policies of george w. bush. which resulted in directly, the greatest job losses since fdr. this is not easy and it is hard work but we are moving forward. >> let's talk about policies. we didn't hear in the hour and 25 minutes of debate anything about the stimulus package. if you look at the policy the trickle-down government policy as the governor described it, they represented below 6% unemployment now, after spending all of that money and had full charge of the first two years and the policies that this president put into place, actually made it worse. including the fact that obamacare is actually... employers, it is causing them not to hire and gas prices doubled and the middle class is buried under this administration and the vice president said it aptly and it is true. >> chris: let's turn to a couple of issues that came up in the debate. obviously the jobs report came out after the debate. both sides said the other candidate is lying about his position and let's start with taxe

bigger unemployment, bigger deficits, more wars than president obama was by the failed policies of george w. bush which resulted in directly the greatest job losses since fdr. h is hot easy. in is hard -- this is not easy. this is hard work. >> we didn't hear in an hour and 20 minutes of debate anything about the stimulus package because if you look at the policy the trickle down government policy as the governor described it, they represented we would be below 6% unemployment now after spending all that money. the policies that this president put into place is actually made it worse including the fact that obama care is causing small employers not to hire because of rising healthcare costs. gas prices have doubled. the middle class is being buried under this administration. the vice president said it aptly and it is true. >> chris: let's turn to a couple of issues that came up during the debate. obviously the jobs report came out after the debeat. both sides saying that the other candidate is lying about h his position and let's start with taxes. governor, the president keeps saying that

toomey how the deficit is going to play a role in the depate. he was a member of the super committee. plus memorable moments from past vice presidential debates like this one from 1988. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. extra curricular activities help provide a

, the problem of running deficits and accumulating greater debt, that the country had a budget deficit, a trade deficit, a balance of payments deficit, and the fourth one you brought up was a leadership deficit. >> leadership is the greatest. >> can i ask you both, describe what is the problem with what appears to be in your mind a leadership deficit, that we're not getting the leadership on this key issue either from this president or past presidents, this congress or pass congresses/ what does it take to get elected officials to tackle at an issue, increasing their taxes? >> let's start with the families. they will get their attention. the voters have to understand all this, which they did not, and voters need to understand what we have to do to get all this corrected, and they do not. if we ever get that over to the voters, they will vote for the people who are geared up, ready, and know how to do it and are running on that basis, and then we can change this country forever and get us back to where we used to be when i was a boy in the depression. why schoolteachers and would have been docto

? unfortunately for the fiscal year, the u.s. deficit totals 1$1.4 trillion. it exceeded the $4 trillion mark. >>> jack kennedy and paul ryan, perfect together? some things about them that are similar. both young, energetic, viant. paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> nevereen done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now. kennedy's plan, ena

means blowing up the deficit or raising taxes on middle-class families. one or the other. pick your poison. last week, mitt romney said, there is no addition to the deficit with my tax plan. if he says it is not true, then it is not true. ok. it is true that it is not going to add to the deficit, that leaves only one option. that is asking middle-class families to foot the bill by getting rid of the deductions for owning a home, raising kids, or sending them to college. as it turned out, most folks do not like that idea either. just last week, on stage, governor romney decided that instead of changing his plan, he would pretended did not exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i do not know anything about that tax cut. pay no attention to the tax cut under the carpet, behind the curtain. when he was asked how he would cut the deficit, he said he could make the math work by eliminating local public funding for pbs. by the way, this is not new. this is what he has been saying every time he is asked a question. we can cut out pbs. for all you moms and kids out there, do not worry. somebody is

this deficit. and governor dukakis has been able to cut the deficit ten budgets in a row in the state of massachusetts. while he lowered the tax burden on the people from one of the highest to one of the law were in the united states. that is a major sense of achievement and i admire that and i'm just delighted to be on the ticket with him. governor dukakis and i agree that we ought to have a trade policy for this country. but we've seen this administration more than double the national debt, that they've moved this country from the number one lender nation in the world to the number one destination in the world under their administration. they have not had a faith policy committee of let trade be a handmaiden for the policy objectives of the country. that this country has exported to many jobs and not enough profits. and as i work to pass a trade bill through the united states senate, through roadblocks every step of the way but we passed a trade bill that any country that has full access to the markets we are entitled to full access to their markets. now that means that we are going

% gdp growth after you get to an almost 10% deficit spend of $3 trillion out of deficit stimulus, it's not robust growth. what happens in this election is important. clearly people have to get out and vote. what's going to happen on this groundwork and infrastructure of our economy over the next four years is going to be crucial for future generations. >>. no, it's not about infrastructure. it has nothing to do with infrastructure. david, it has to do with mitt romney's brilliant tax reform plan to lower the rates and broaden the base and cap the deductions. we're going to talk about that in the next segment with arthur laffer and jared bernstein. but don't you think there's potential here for a political and economic revolution? and if a pro-growth revolution comes, american entrepreneurs, american small businessmen and women are poised, they are poised to torque up the animal spirits and give this a great lift. i think people in the stock market are missing this, david goldman. >> larry, markets have never been good about predicting elections and discounted them. but the fact is, w

that they are not going to cut taxes in way that willed a to the deficit, and i'll bet they are also claim that they are not going to raise taxes on the middle class, but they'll give the middle class a tax break. all of those lies we have heard before. and obamacare is a big government program. i don't think joe can be too aggressive. he doesn't have to be obnoxious. that's not his style anyhow. but he has to take on every single one of those. the other thing i think is is important for joe biden, i believe, that he has got to remember, that this is not for him. nobody is going to vote for him or paul ryan. if you are going to vote for just joe biden or paul ryan. if you want to vote for paul ryan and joe biden, you can't do that. it's not about paul or joe, it's about barack obama and mitt romney. and joe biden has to keep bringing it back to the fundamental choices. move forward with obama or move backward with mitt romney. i think joe has to make that point over and over and over again. and then i think it is important for us to realize that in the past there have

independent. help people who are hurting get the skills they need to get the jobs they want. get the deficit under control. make trade work for america, and champion small businesses. don't raise taxes on small businesses because they are our job creators. he talks about detroit. mitt romney is a car guy. let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. this is a guy who i was talking to a family in massachusetts the other day, cheryl and mark nixon. their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them two of them rob and reid were paralyzed them. the romneys didn't know them. he asked if he could come over at christmas. he brought his boys and gifts. he said i know you are struggling don't worry about their college, i'll pay for it. mitt romney doesn't tell these stories. when the nixons told this story it was that he gave his time. mitt romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. and with respect to the quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> biden: but i alwa

last year doubled their taxes this year, we would still have a $300 billion deficit. you see, there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. that's why we're saying we need punishment tax reform. let's look at it this way. 8 out of 10 businesses, they file their taxes as individuals, not corporations. where i come from overseas, which is lake superior, the canadians, they drop their tax rates to 15%. the average tax rate on businesses in the industrialized world is 25% and the president wants the effective top tax rate to go above 40%. 2/3 of our jobs come from small businesses. this one tax would actually fax about 53% of small business income. it's expected to cost us 710,000 jobs. and it doesn't even pay for 10% of the proposed deficit spending increases. we're saying close loopholes primarily to the higher income people. we have three bottom lines. don't rai

so they don't add to deficits and says that he would do so in large part by curbing tax breaks on the rich. he also has promised not to raise taxes on the middle class. now, this triggered a pretty hot exchange between joe biden and paul ryan over whether it's mathematically possible. let's bring in christine romans to separate fact from fiction. good morning. >> good morning, randi. paul ryan claimed you could cut income taxes by 20% across the board and all while keeping this deficit neutral. listen to that fiery exchange. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is matmatically possible. >> the nonpolicy tax center says it's not mathematically possible with the amount of information we have about romney's tax plan. not possible to cut rates as much as he would like without deductions that would hurt the middle class. investment taxes and dividend taxes, which the romney campaign has said it wouldn't do. so, for those reasons, our verdict here is that it's false. you can't

? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. >>> their ideas are old and their ideas are bad and they eliminate the guarantee of medicare. >> here's the problem. they got caught with the hands in the cookie jar taking it out for obama care. >> those are great sound bite, but how do we get to the truth in those comments. paul ryan stuck by his proposals at the debate last night. only he said, partially privatizing medicare will not turn into a vo

'60s, we were running budget surpluses. even in the early '80s, the budget deficit was a lot smaller. that's the key reason i'd be concerned. i think tax reform is a good idea. doug is right. we need to have tax reform, but we need tax reform that raises enough revenue to lower tax rates and also goes to reducing future budget deficit because if we don't get the deficits down, lower tax rates aren't going help us. >> and doug, do you think it's fair to say, romney ryan have been saying they think a 3% growth is reasonable. do you think it is? because for in of this math to work out and this whole argument everybody's having about whether they can cut taxes and close enough loopholes, they are counting on economic growth on being part of making up that difference. will it? >> you can't say for sure because good tax policy does t matter. t not the only thing going on out there and you would have to have a displn palestinianed, economic policy. we have a serious threat to the economy from existed and projected debt. it is different from the era of reagan in that debt is not being driv

the skills they need to get jobs they want. get this deficit and debt under control to prevent a debt crise. make trade work for america so we can make more things in america and sell them overseas and champion small businesses. don't raise taxes on small businesses because they're our job creators. he talks about detroit. mitt romney is a car guy. they keep misquoting him, but let me tell you about the mitt romney i know. this is a guy who i was talking to a family in northboro, massachusetts, the other day. sheryl and mark nixon. their kids were hit in a car crash, four of them, two of them, rob and reid, were paralyzed. the romneys didn't know them. they went to the same church. mitt asked if he could come over on christmas. he brought his boys, his wife, and gifts. later on he said, "i know you're struggling, mark. don't worry about their college. i'll pay for it." when mark told me this story, because you know what, mitt romney doesn't tell this story. the nixons told this story. when he told me this story. he said it wasn't the cash help. it's that he gave his time and he has consiste

claimed that you can reduce our deficit through tax increases alone. he's never said that. the president and vice president have said we need to take the ballad propose, using the kind of frachlwork that bipartisan groups have suggested. whereas republicans have been very clear not one more penny, even from people like mitt romney to reduce the deficit. so our point isn't that you can increase taxes on wealthier people, and do the whole thing on the deficit. our point of review is that they should be asked to contribute a little more. go back to paying what they were in the clinton administration, when the economy was roaring. that's what we're saying. we support a combination of additional targeted cuts. but also revenue for folks who are doing very well to help reduce the deficit. because if you don't have one penny more from very wealthy people it means you sock it to everybody else. seniors on medicare pay more. less investment in our kids' education. and that's exactly the romney/ryan budget does. itzhaks it to the middle class and seniors, in order to give these tax breaks to very

deficit and debt under control. make trade work for america to make more things in america and sell them overseas and champion small businesses. don't raise taxes on small businesses because they are the job creators. he talked about detroit. mitt romney's a car guy. they keep misquoting him. the mitt romney i know is a guy who i was talking to a family in massachusetts the other day, sheryl and mark nixson. their kids hit in a car crash, two of them parollized. mitt wanted to come over on christmas bringing his boys, his wife, and gifts. later on he said i know you're struggling, mark, don't worry about college. i'll pay for it. when mark told me the story because mitt doesn't tell the stories. when i was told the story, he said it was not the cash help, but that he gave his time and he has consistently. this is a map who gave 30% of the income to charity, more than the two of us combined. mitt romney's a good man and cares about 100% of americans in the country. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth

? >> i will -- the candidates how they will reconcile reducing the deficit, cut spending and still -- [inaudible] >> what are you doing to prevent trafficking and to stop it altogether? >> all day like event tomorrow on c-span2 to tell you about. the center for strategic and international studies looks at political transitions in north africa. this starts at 8:30 a.m. eastern. >> we are live at centre college in danville kentucky for the 2012 vice presidential debate between vice presidential bike and congressman paul ryan. the moderator, martha raddatz is almost ready to begin after giving the audience instructions to remain quiet during the debate. we are waiting for her to introduce the candidates announced the opening question. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] .. [inaudible conversations] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [inaudible conversations] [background sounds] [inaudible conversations] [background sounds] [inaudible conversa

to cut the deficit in half in four years. we have four budget it is and four trillion dollar deficits. a debt crisis is coming and we can't keep spend borrowing like and spending money we don't have. leaders run to problems to fix problems. >> steve: i got this tweet. why was bush crusify biden didn't get information on the intelligence community and that is okay. >> steve: ultimately some polls went out and they did snap pollings. cnn paul ryan . cnbc. winner 20 points. >> brian: cbsdid joe biden. >> steve: they did a focus group for 50 people. >> gretchen: we have frank coming up. and we'll show you that. now the rest of the head lineups for friday. one month after ambassador stevens was ciled. lawrence pope is the new charge of affairs. he will represent. pope retired 12 years ago and an ambassador to chad and political advisor for the special command and special operations in the middle east. governor mitt romney getting a spiritual boost from billy graham. >> reverend graham added he would do everything to help him. franklin graham has provided council to every president since ha

and creating jobs. >> your also worried about the deficit. clearly america has large and ever-growing deficits. the proposed a tax cut. that is defecit spending. >> this is a two-step deal. everybody knows we need the big deal. we talk about that and 30 seconds. we're not going to get to the big deal by jumping off the bridge. what we're saying is that it is not the right thing to do to have the largest tax increase in the history of america and to have up $1.20 trillion worth of spending cuts that do not even look at medicare and medicaid across the board without thinking through what is the deal is going to be. anybody from either party should come to a realization that the big deal counts. all we need to do is get a small part of an extension. when you talk about these taxes and spending, it cannot be done by 10 people in the back room. it has to be done in normal order. they are the only people that understand what you're in those bills. >> to and if you really think we're going to jump off a fiscal cliff? >> i think it is at least that the tax cut scheduled to expire to expire. maybe slig

beyond the level the pentagon asked for which would explode the deficit. and he wouldn't commit to the 2014 timetable to bring our troops home from afghanistan. and so i think time and time again the vice president laid out the choice for the middle class in this election and was very effective in doing so. jon: time and time again the vice president interrupted, interjected, laughed, guf fawed, that kind of thing. was that appropriate first of all? was it intentional? >> well, republicans like to praise happy warriors. that is what we saw from the vice president last night. he caught out the brazen attempt by the romney-ryan campaign to try to rewrite their kick the -- ticket and their positions in the final 30 days of the race. suddenly they don't know anything about the $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthiest they proposed. suddenly they talk like they cover people with preexisting conditions under their health care plan. we know if you're between jobs or between plans you wouldn't be covered under their plan. the vice president is authentic. what you see is what you get. he d

small businesses, doubled their income taxes this year, we'd still have a $300 billion deficit. you see, there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> so al. >> good exchange. >> what do you think, mika? >> no, al, go ahead. >> you laughed at that line. a lot of people thought that was a strong line. >> okay. it was ridiculous. >> it was ridiculous. >> what was ridiculous about it, mika? >> both sides are being ridiculous on this one because neither one of these people are going to balance the budget. this is the biggest failure in the campaign on both sides. >> amen. >> is that neither side has made any significant attempt to balance the budget. and what ryan and romney are calling is outrageously stupid. what the president is doing is inadequate. >> okay. al? >> good description. nothing partisan about that description. you know, al, the governor brings up a point. i'

, the economy, and the deficit, and a reference to former president kennedy. >> first of all, i was there when ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of small-business americans paid -- make less than $250,000. amid tell you who some of the other small businesses are. hedge funds that make a hundred million dollars a year. that is what they call as small business. gov. romney on 60 minutes about 10 days ago was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. somebody making $50,000 face more than that. he said that is fair. that is fair. do you think these guys are going to go out there and cut the loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carriage entrance loophole and the capital gains loophole. the reason that the american enterprise study, the tax policy center study all say taxes will go up on the middle-class is it is the only way you can find at $5 trillion and loopholes as to cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. >> is he wrong about that? >

said no to the keystone pipeline. i asked more questions like why was it with a trillion dollar deficit, he found it in his -- in his heart to put $90 billion into green energy companies that in many cases were contributors to his campaign. at least the owners of those businesses were. and why was it with what he had promised during his campaign, that health insurance premiums he would bring down by $2,500 a year, instead they went up by $2,500 a year. you know, i know we've heard his answers over the campaign. had he says look you can't fix washington from the inside, only do it from the outside. we're going to give him that chance, all right. >> that was mitt romney at a rally in richmond, virginia, karen finney some sharp words. >> not unexpected. >> not unexpected at all. >> i'll start first with benghazi, which we didn't talk about earlier and which we will talk about now. mitt romney clearly sees an opening here, foreign policy wise to hit the president. said that president is doubling down on denial in his remarks just a moment ago. let's talk about how the vice president handled

economics. debt was a four letter word, deficit, the tea party movement, taxes, government spending, the role of government, the reach of government. i think that the coups and clues lies somewhere between 2008 and 2010. and sure, chemistry is important to women, biology is important to women. but in 2012 the most important issue to them really subject to them is math. >> brown: kellyanne conway and solindan lake, thank you both very much. >> thank you very much >> brown: in her weekly blog post, gwen ifill looks at how the campaigns are pitching hard to undecided women voters. and if you missed any of last night's debate, you can watch the vice-presidential match-up in full on our web site. >> woodruff: later in the program, we'll have more on the presidential race from shields and brooks. also ahead, the peace prize goes to the european union; and the pollsters, the gamblers, and the academics predict the election results. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: secretary of state hillary clinton vowed today that u.s. diplomats will not retre

at the same time they're lecturing people about the deficit. we need to deal with the deficit and the folks at the very top should go back to paying the same rate they did during the clinton administration. when we had 20 million jobs created and the economy was doing great. so i thought this was a great night in exposing the really clear choice for the american people. you've got one guy who comes from scranton, pennsylvania. he's a fighter for the middle class. his policies back him up. you have another ticket that discovered the expression middle class in the last six months on the campaign trail. that was really clear. >> congressman chris van hollen of maryland. thank you very much for joining us tonight, sir. we know you're busy and a lot yet do. good luck winding down from being paul ryan, sir. i will say what you just saw there from congressman chris van hollen if you contrast that with us talking to david plouffe last week after the presidential debate and see the sort of democratic buoyancy out of this, what everybody said going into this was the democrats were looking for somethi

taxpayers. but he's really creating debt. the facts are clear. obama's four deficits are the four largest in us history. he's adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents -- combined. and over 30 cents of every dollar obama spends is borrowed. much of it from countries like china. he's not just wasting money, he's borrowing it and then wasting it. we can't afford four more years. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. freight railroads plan to spend $23 billion on their network. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney that's like launching 4 mars rovers, 10 gps satellites, and 20 space shuttles ...all in one year. and not a penny of it comes from taxpayers. >>> a former prince george's county bus driver convicted of intentionally driving into a building is expected to learn her fate today. she is 41-year-old teresa douglas and drove her bus through the employee lounge at the bus lot last september. authorities say she posted on facebook the night before she was tired of fighting and was ready to go to jail. she faces up to 53 years behind bars when sentenced today. >>> moni

still have a $300 billion deficit. you see there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. jamie: stuart varney, anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network here to tell us what he thinks about that. hi, stu, good morning. >> well look, the central quote on the economic side of the debate which policy will grow the economy and cut the deficit. paul ryan was very clear. you cut tax rates, that gives you growth. listen to this exchange. >> cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mattally possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it has been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done couple times actually. lower tax rates increase growth. lower tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> well that was interruption. that was also a put-down and vice president biden woos factually

is recommending some of europe's most heavily in debt companies take more time to reduce deficits. moving too fast is counterproductive because it hurts the overall economy and checking in on the numbers right now, nearly all of the european markets well pretty mix but a lot of them are down this morning. meanwhile markets in the far east traded in a very narrow range overnight as investors wait for several economic reports. markets in japan and taiwan finished the day with small losses. hong kong finished up slightly. checking in on our numbers. futures indicate a higher opening across the board for the dow, nasdaq, and s & p. pretty small moves. but one company jp morgan reporting a good fourth quarter. >>> police are investigating a homicide. matt keller is live on the scene at rogers and junction avenues with new developments in the case. >> porter: you can see that officers are still here at the scene of the city's 37th homicide of the year. you can even see the mobile command unit here as well. the shooting happened here on rogers avenue just before 2:00 this morning. when officers arrived t

raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here how could we ever trust him here? . >>> as we await mitt romney and paul ryan, let's get to our strategy session. joining us now two cnn contributors the democratic strategist maria cardona and former bush speech writer david frum. thanks very much for coming in. we had a focus group, undecided voters watching in virginia at the debate last night. and the low point for paul ryan happened when he was talking about abortion. let me play unelected make this decision elected representatives and reaching a consensus in society through the democratic process should make this determination. >> that was the low point for him. and among those focus groups in the dial test today @barack obama the twitter site tweeted low point happened near the end of the debate when he was asked about abortion. i was referring to that focus group. how much of a problem is the difference between the democratic ticket and the republican ticket with female voters out there when it comes

control. president obama hasn't had a budget in four years. we have seen $4 trillion deficits under his lack of leadership with our debt reaching $16 trillion. and as you know, if we stay on this path, by the end of his second term, should he be re-elected, it would be $20 trillion. that's unacceptable. >> is there a way to say that within the framework of what simpson/bowles are now providing, this time with the involvement of a lot of the nation's ceos? >> well, governor romney and paul ryan, like i said, have laid out a plan, not just to bring spending under control, but to reform our tax code, get people working again. because with more people in the work force, we'll be able to generate more income and that will be more money coming in. as you know, right now with 23 million americans struggling for work, many of those underemployed, they can't get good jobs. the amount of income we need just isn't coming in. >> yeah. but what i hear you saying is that it's going to be on your terms from your plan. it's not going to be in any way trying to embrace a revamped simpson/bowles. we know

even with the president, erasing a five-point deficit. but then friday's strong jobs report could turn that around. i'm joined now by gallup poll editor in chief frank newport. frank, good to see you. good morning. >> good morning! >> okay, so, let me know what you think. how's the race shaping up? how much have we seen? how much have you been able to poll up to this point? >> boy, we're studying the numbers. in fact, we're just looking at the numbers from last night, which we're adding to our rolling average which we will report out at 1:00 today at gallup.com. our view of the race is that romney definitely got a significant boost on thursday and friday of last week. and by the way, that's probably what was picked up for the most part in that pew poll that was discussed. >> okay. >> but when we monitor our data from saturday and sunday, and now just looking at the numbers from last night, obama is picking back up again. so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we would say it's looking like the race is, among registered voters, stil

the most ground in virginia. he's turned a 2% deficit to an edge. florida, a one-point race before is still a one-point race. president up 48-47. before the debate, the president led 47-46. in ohio, the president maintains a shrinking but substantial lead. he has a six-point advantage, leading romney 51-45. the big difference, early voting. there in ohio, nearly one in five respondents tell us they've already voted. and if those who have voted, almost two-thirds have voted for president obama. and did the first debate sway any voters? the vast majority tell us they made up their minds before the debate. joining me now, lee, director of the marist poll. that's what i want to start off with. i thought it was remarkable that we're talking single digits here, 7% in florida, 7%, 6%, in these three states that said the debates mattered. among that small sliver of people, they all favored romney for those that say debates mattered. >> this is what we've been saying throughout the campaign. this electorate who picked sides early, the undecided has been low, those firmly committed to a candidate has

. >> and i agree with you also, chris. if they talk about the tax thing too much in the context of deficit reduction, it doesn't help them because that's not the president's strongest turf. >> i know i ask you all of the great questions because you're a great reporter. it sounds like you're saying that the vice president will not go for the kill. he won't nail them on the 47%, nail them on vouchers, nail him on the emergency rooms. will he do that? >> no. look, i had an adviser tell me -- am i going to hear the number 47 and they wouldn't 100% commit to it but they said i would be shocked if you didn't hear the number 47 tonight and 47. but no, no, no, biden's job is to throw -- as somebody said red meat earlier. it's called blue meat if it's for the blue meat. fine. it is supposed to be blue meat. this is a way of going after -- trying to draw the brighter lines with ryan. also fires up the democratic base. remember, that is an issue here after this first debate, which is a demoralizing feeling. biden's job is to fix that tonight. >> he wants to be a cheerleader for the team, he wants to

and keep the middle class tax deductions intact. something that would not add to the deficit, they say. here's -- let's listen to paul ryan saying that. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve the important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> they have been arcing about this for months now. the non-partisan tax policy center says given the information that is available from the romney/ryan campaign it is not possible to cut tax rates as much as you'd like without eliminating deductions that may hurt the middle cla. specifically, you can't do this without changing rules on capital gains taxes, dividend taxes and the romney campaign has said they will not do that. you cannot cut taxes and keep the middle class deductions and can't cut taxes and keep lower rates on capital gains. now the romney campaign has said, look, we would work with the congress. we would -- we can't tell you what exactly it would look like because we'll work with the congress but the tax policy center says it can't be done. given wha

puts obama from a narrow lead to a narrow deficit. effectively, though, this race is deadlocked. when we get to the swing states we will see that. >>gregg: people call this a bounce for romney. >> but a bounce does not last in >>pat: this could be the most significant debate in terms of impact other than reagan's debate against carter in affecting the race. debates usually do not move numbers. romney is getting real movement out of the debate. what it does and what has happened, romney's favorable rating has skyrocketed. we saw that among uncommitted voters in the cbs poll, after the debate, and we talked about this last week, 30 percent of the people say he cared about them, it doubled to 53 percent. he did what we suggested. by the way that is the important thing, changing the structure of the race. that now ahead it a real close race, not just in numbers but in context. >>gregg: in all of the attack ads over the last six months, $100 million has been spent by the obama campaign demonizing mitt romney and i think the public expectation was expecting this crazed guy who kills people.

, look, here's our deficit, here's our goal, here's the period of time that we have in order to fix it. and here are the measures that have to be on the table, the ones we can agree on, those we disagree on, but we have to come out with a way to so that the bleeding. that means putting everything on the table. now, i oppose -- the fact is that there can be an agreement in my view that we would all have to make some sacrifices. but for me to say i would support this, i wouldn't support that, that's not the way you negotiate. >> but you're saying you won't put the mortgage tax deduction on the table. >> i wouldn't agree to it. but the fact is that there can be an agreement. >> didn't the debt ceiling negotiation show that there simply cannot be a coming to terms between republicans and democrats? each party has their own sacred house that they refuse to budge. >> the president has agreed and boehner had agreed to a certain amount of revenue increases. boehner went to to the white house and the president napded that there be another $500 billion worth of tax increases. the whole they thin

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. the facts are clear. obama's four deficits are the four largest in us history. he's adding almost as much debt as all 43 previous presidents -- combined. and over 30 cents of every dollar obama spends is borrowed. much of it from countries like china. he's not just wasting money, he's borrowing it and then wasting it. we can't afford four more years. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message.

would blow a hole in the deficit, cause much deeper cuts in medicare, medicaid and education and the environment and knock our economy off track raising interest rates, mortgage rates and car payment. >> well, deja vu when you listen to al gore now and joe biden and we'll watch to see if that plays out tonight. tonight, who do we have on stage? vice president joe biden and chairman paul ryan and they want to dbate which ticket is best for the middle classnd expect talk about their hometown routes. >> i proudly represent the state of delaware from years in the senate, but i come from a state, i come from pennsylvania -- i come from scranton and the same things in pennsylvania have basically happened here in ohio and, i tell you what, both, both are coming back. >> i live in janesville. i live about two hours northeast of here. it looks just like this town. actually, this looks, very much like some buildings we have in wisconsin. >> hear a lot of that tonight. joe biden and paul ryan on the campaign trail. go into the small, blue collar towns in iowa, ohio, in pennsylvania and

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